tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816065258449299220.post6065823488174365483..comments2024-03-02T02:44:12.501-06:00Comments on Developing Professional Staff: For-Profit Involvement in OER - Part 4Dan McGuirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17165245665212961209noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816065258449299220.post-80173049423405683122017-06-29T19:28:40.698-05:002017-06-29T19:28:40.698-05:00I enjoyed over read your blog post. Your blog have...<br /> I enjoyed over read your blog post. 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I don't - http://developingprofessionalstaff-mpls.blogspot.com/2016/01/oer-and-learning-management-system.htmlDan McGuirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17165245665212961209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816065258449299220.post-9457656866414123742016-06-20T02:57:38.168-05:002016-06-20T02:57:38.168-05:00I think David & Lumen's work is great for ...I think David & Lumen's work is great for two reasons: 1) it's actually, you know, doing something, instead of just talking about it (which is what I tend to do) 2) it addresses very practical needs and issues for teachers that don't require them to completely change everything they do. And this last point is key to the tensions - I think sometimes we (the OER community, ed tech people) do want to radically change how people teach. But that becomes too big a jump - once you've completely changed society this will be great. I've commented elsewhere though that we don't want open textbooks to be the LMS of OER - they seemed like a sensible stepping point but ended up being the end point. So it's getting that balance right, and we only know that by progressing with different types of experiment that include Lumen and also Robin's excellent use of open pedagogy. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00857892975790697017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816065258449299220.post-2060991394690810482016-06-18T10:05:54.581-05:002016-06-18T10:05:54.581-05:00What are the "possibilities" for a non-p...What are the "possibilities" for a non-profit approach to OER development (infrastructure, institutional services, etc). Like you, I am generally supportive of Lumen's work and especially grateful to David for his leadership in the field. But we all agree on the "different recipes prodice different cookies" thing; and we probably all see the sense of a non-profit and/or publicly-funded approach to OER integration into education, especially public education. But as a professor, I feel lost about who to look to for leaders on this. Who are the public education activists working on sustainable non-profit infrastructure for the OER movement? I appreciate the way your posts have opened the conversation. I wish I understood more about all of this, but I really like the way you and David seem to challenge each other while listening to each other, and and the way you both keep students at the center of your ideas.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365357318740831789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816065258449299220.post-24916973451342004502016-06-16T11:33:41.015-05:002016-06-16T11:33:41.015-05:00Thanks for your comment. I would welcome an intell...Thanks for your comment. I would welcome an intellectually honest feature by feature comparison of the Lumen platform / LTI presentation of OER and the presentation of OER within an LMS. <br /><br />My Anthony Crispino like comment -"I’m pretty sure that Lumen is already working with Instructure and other LMS purveyors to blur that line even more" was meant to represent one of the many future possibilities of for-profit companies involved in OER. There are likely even more possibilities than I can conjure.<br /><br />And, of course, there will be institutions that prefer per student pricing of services related to OER, especially in the beginning.<br />Dan McGuirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17165245665212961209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8816065258449299220.post-79739037039189450402016-06-16T10:42:02.612-05:002016-06-16T10:42:02.612-05:00"Putting the OER in a separate platform and c..."Putting the OER in a separate platform and connecting to the LMS via LTI is only really useful if you want more money going to those that run the separate platform instead of keeping the money for running the LMS."<br /><br />While there are some benefits of the copy and paste model of delivering OER directly within the LMS, having supported faculty and students via that model for a couple of years I can attest that there are serious downsides to the model as well. On the other hand, having supported faculty and students via the LTI-based model I can say unequivocally that there are also benefits to faculty and students from the LTI approach. Having spent a few years with both approaches, it's clear to me that the benefits of the LTI approach significantly outweigh those of the cut and paste approach. It's fine for you to have a different opinion about which set of benefits is most beneficial, but it feels intellectually dishonest for you to claim that there are no benefits to faculty and students of the LTI approach (which is how I read your statement that the LTI approach is "only really useful" for redirecting dollars).<br /><br />"I'm pretty sure that Lumen is already working with Instructure and other LMS purveyors to blur that line even more..." <br /><br />Lumen is a member of the the IMS Global Learning Consortium and collaborates on the development of standards like LTI and Common Cartridge with other members of that educational technology community in order to improve the interoperability of learning systems. Is that what you were trying to say? In the future, when you're uncertain or have a question ("I'm pretty sure..."), would you please send an email to do some basic fact checking before publishing potentially inaccurate information and hoping I'll correct errors in a comment? This is not the first time you've made this kind of statement in this series of posts.<br /><br />"The supporting functions that are necessary for the continued flourishing of OER can be provided by a for-profit entity, but the best value to community colleges, students and faculty will be when they are provided on a fee for service basis."<br /><br />There will no doubt be some institutions where that is true. But as a universal claim, as you have stated it here, this is patently false. One of the reasons Lumen typically uses a per-student fee model is that our partner colleges have made it very clear that they have a strong preference for that model. If they didn't, it would be silly for us to use it.<br /><br />"As institutions including administration, IT support, faculty, libraries, student services, and students all come to understand all of the moving parts of OER, the institutions will better be able to determine which payment method for OER support is best for their particular circumstances."<br /><br />I wholeheartedly agree. opencontenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13425714975594777192noreply@blogger.com